Erik and Justin dig into whether today’s AI risks are being overstated by headlines, and what a practical approach should look like for pacing, alignment, and cybersecurity hardening as AI agents grow more capable.
🧭 Conversation Highlights
Erik challenges the “frontier labs prove everything is catastrophic” framing, arguing that real-world harm requires unusual capability, access, and resources.
Justin counters with a “toy rocket vs frontier rocket” analogy: risk is real, but the systems most